Winning Him Without Words, 10 Keys To Thriving in Your Spiritually Mismatched Marriage

Author Interview with Lynn Donovan

If you are a Christian married to an unbeliever, you have a unique challenge in walking out your faith. Lynn Donovan, author of Winning Him Without Words, refers to it as a spiritually mismatched marriage and has traveled this path herself.  If you struggle with how to love both God and your spouse in a way that pleases each of them, I believe you will find hope and inspiration in what Lynn has to share with us today.

In addition to her book, Winning Him Without Words, Lynn is the author of two other related books as well: 10 Keys to Thriving in Your Spiritually Mismatched Marriage, and Not Alone, Trusting God To Help You Raise Godly Kids in a Spiritually Mismatched Home. Lynn has appeared on 700 Club Interactive, Focus on the Family, Dr. James Dobson’s FamilyTalk, and FamilyLife Today

But I will let Lynn introduce herself and tell you more about her story.  Here’s Lynn.

Lynn:  Hello everyone! I’m joining your community this week to share a bit about my God-sized story. I’m so thankful that Linda has asked me to be a part of your home.

My friends, my story is about a Prodigal child – me (Luke 15:11-31). I fled my childhood Sunday school days in my twenties. I left my loving Father for all the promises the world said were mine. I met my husband in these dark years and we fell in love. We were married and for the first three years everything was fine. But the world’s lure proved shallow, unkind and untrue. I heard my faithful Father calling in the distance and He wooed me.

I went running home into the arms of my Papa and was thrilled to once again have a relationship with God. But, I ran home dragging my unbelieving spouse behind me kicking and screaming all the way. To say that my husband was unhappy about this new “Man” in my life, was a serious understatement.

I am unequally yoked.

There are many women such as me who sit alone week after week in church. There are women who are married to men who say they believe and yet they are also like me, living in a spiritually mismatched marriage. We are committed to our marriage covenant and wish to honor our Lord no matter how we arrived in our spiritually mismatched marriage.

My journey has been a crazy adventure, filled with loneliness at times, as my husband and I view life through two different world views. On this journey I’ve had to face fears over my children’s salvation, as well as having to live with the disappointment of attending church alone, wanting to be a “normal” couple, and the most difficult—the rejection of my faith by my best friend on earth.

But don’t feel sad for me….  Because I serve the risen Savior and through His love and power, I have discovered that the unequally yoked can truly thrive while living with an unbeliever. We can grow in our faith, love and respect for our spouse, raise our children to a vibrant faith, and walk in the Presence of the Most High.

Linda:  I’m looking forward to hearing what else you learned on this 22 year adventure, Lynn.  But tell me, what does your husband think about this ministry?

Lynn: By the grace of God my husband is fully supportive of my ministry and he encourages me to help others who are also in spiritually mismatched marriages. I call that a “Way cool God thing.”

Thriving in a Spiritually Mismatched Marriage

Linda:  Lynn, you mentioned to me that you discovered a powerful scripture that changed everything about your marriage.

Lynn: Yes, I did, it is: (Jesus) answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.'” —Luke 10:27

Linda: How did this make a difference in your marriage?

Lynn: When you love God, His Son and the Spirit with all of your heart, soul, mind and strength you are transformed. Your mind is transformed and then disappointment and bitterness no longer has influence in your life. You discover an unending joy bubbles out of you, flowing onto your husband and your children. This kind of love transforms a heart, heals a body, restores a marriage, and leads little ones to faith.

I had to remove my eyes and expectations from my human husband and place all of my hopes upon Christ. When I did this our marriage moved into THRIVING. My husband found freedom to discover God in his own way without my manipulation and I found my expectations were replaced by God explanations. I was transformed by the love of God.

It’s a miracle! Woo Hoo!!!!

And Linda one of my favorite truths I share is this:

A man can ignore a nagging wife, but he can’t ignore the truth of a transformed life.

Linda:  I like that.  But tell me what do you think is the biggest struggle for those who have a spiritually mismatched marriage?

Lynn:  Across the board, men and women, who are married to pre-believers (we like to call them pre-believers) struggle through a season of loneliness. In our book, Winning Him Without Words, the entire first chapter addresses this season. What I want to tell everyone who is unequally yoked is to press forward during this season. This is the training ground for growing your faith into a vibrant, strong and intimate love relationship with the Father.

You can overcome this. You can attend church alone and receive great blessing from your church family. You will discover the truth of Hebrews 13:5 God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”

Ministering to Your Children in a Spiritually Mismatched Marriage

Linda:  Many times I hear from people who are concerned as to how a spiritually mismatched marriage will affect the children.  What do you say to that?  And have you found specific encouragement in the Bible to help you on this walk?

Lynn:  Yes, there is actually a passage in the Bible that was written just for us. God knew there would be unbelievers married to believers and that’s why 1 Corinthians 7:12-14 exists. Let’s read it from the Message translation as it is rich in meaning and implication. This verse specifically gives me great comfort as a mother raising children in a spiritually mismatched home.

For the rest of you who are in mixed marriages—Christian married to non-Christian—we have no explicit command from the Master. So this is what you must do. If you are a man with a wife who is not a believer but who still wants to live with you, hold on to her. If you are a woman with a husband who is not a believer but he wants to live with you, hold on to him. The unbelieving husband shares to an extent in the holiness of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is likewise touched by the holiness of her husband. Otherwise, your children would be left out; as it is, they also are included in the spiritual purposes of God. —1 Corinthians 7:12-14

I’m learning that when we as believers love Jesus and walk in the power and presence of the Holy Spirit, we impact our environment. And, in fact, we bring God’s will and purposes into our lives and into the lives of our children. The living presence of God within us becomes so powerful that, Paul tells us through the believing spouse every member in the home is sanctified. The living presence of God is so contagious, so powerful, that it creates an umbrella of safety over anyone who comes into that environment.

Linda: So are you saying that it is simply your faith, walked out in the home, which ministers to your children?  Even though your husband has a different worldview, your faith is enough to point the children to God?

Lynn:  Yes, we as believers are uniquely positioned to release the purposes, the love and the very power of God into our children’s lives. Our kids are then included in God’s plans for their lives. They are sanctified—set apart as holy unto the Lord. They belong to the Lord. When we grasp this truth, praying with faith through the Holy Spirit for our kids, we need not live in fear for their salvation. Our love, our example, our Jesus is always enough. I believe this promise for my children’s future and for their eternity.

Wow…… just WOW!  Today if I can talk personally to your readers, I’d like to say, “Let the truth of this passage roar in your spirit. Your faith covers your home. This was a paradigm shift in my thinking and changed how I approached spiritual warfare for my kids and husband. My holiness covers them. They are under the love umbrella of God because an ordinary wife lives with Jesus in her heart and home. Of course, this isn’t a guarantee of their salvation but it is a great encouragement and it keeps me from living in constant fear for their eternity.

And Linda, our faith and our prayers truly impact our spouse. This year, 2019, after 27 years of contending for the faith of my husband, he was baptized on March 14th. As a special gift from the Father, this was ON our wedding anniversary. I pray that those reading this message will find their spouse comes to faith soon. And I affirm each one who is praying for an unsaved loved one. Don’t give up and believe. God is so good and loves your spouse.

Linda: That is so exciting, Lynn! What a beautiful testimony of living out your faith in a spiritually mismatched marriage. That must have been an absolute thrill for you.

Lynn: Yes, and I share more of my overcoming story in my new book, Marching Around Jericho, Praying Your Unsaved Spouse Into The Kingdom. The book launches in January 2020. I pray it reaches the hands of every spouse who walks this unique road of matrimony.

Linda: Thank you, Lynn.  I know this is a serious battle for a number of people reading this interview, and we need a real prayer covering for our homes and our children. Would you like to close us with a prayer?

Lynn: Lord, let this passage bring freedom to every woman and man here today. Let the truth and the power that comes with your living and active Word permeate every place in his or her heart and home. I ask that the Holy Spirit would prove the truth of how the prayers of a righteous mama (or papa) availeth much. In Jesus name. Amen.

Linda, thank you for allowing me to share the hope that I have. Hope is a person, Jesus Christ.

I love you and count it a privilege to be here with your community.

Linda: It’s been a blessing to all of us to hear your story about thriving in the midst of a spiritually mismatched marriage. It’s a message many people need to hear. Please tell us where readers can find out more about your ministry, your book, Winning Him Without Words and your other books.

Lynn:  You can visit me online at http://.spirituallyunequalmarriage.com

 

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When Dreams Aren’t Coming True

One morning I sat on my screen porch praying and seeking God.  Discouragement hung heavy on my heart. One of my life dreams just didn’t seem to be coming true. Writing had been my passion since the sixth grade. I wrote for the school newspaper in junior and senior high. I majored in creative writing in college.  My desire to be a writer stuck with me continuously through life, even as various detours caused that dream to drop by the wayside again and again. Some of those detours were God driven, and I willingly followed His lead, using my passion for writing in each of those endeavors. Gradually, local opportunities surfaced.

When the bottom dropped out of my life through a heart-breaking three-year separation from my husband, God began to prepare my heart to go deeper into Himself and into the plans He had for me.

In the year 2000 after my husband and I reconciled, the doors opened for my writing. I published my first article in HomeLife, then Focus on the Family. I became a contributing writer for Tapestry, a Walk Thru the Bible devotional for women.  More significantly, through the heartache I had suffered during our separation, God planted seeds of healing and grace that resulted in my writing Broken Heart on Hold. Four years later, I received my first book contract for it. Through the trauma of heartache, my dreams were finally coming true.

But like so many of us I was satisfied for only a little while.  Eventually, I wanted more. The book proposals and drafts I wrote for two more books went nowhere. My agent faithfully persevered with me through one rejection after another. The rejections were kind: “She writes well,” “Great concept.” Etc.  But they were rejections, and I didn’t understand why God was not allowing me to publish other books that would lift up His name.

A New Revelation

That day on my screen porch as I prayed and spilled out my heart to God in disappointment, I asked God why, why had I not received the blessing I was seeking. As I prayed, a scripture came to mind  that had been hooked into a tab at the top of my bathroom mirror for years.

“If you abide in me and my words abide in you, you can ask what you want and it will be given to you”   (John 15:7).

I had glanced at the scripture often. Abiding.  Abiding with God. Yes, that was something I desired and tried to do.

“I’ve done that, Lord,” I said aloud. “I have abided with you. Through all those painful times, I abided with you.  I pray all the time.  You know that, Lord.”

In the stillness of my heart God answered me. “But that’s only a part of the promise, Linda.  Yes, you’ve abided in me. But what’s the last part? And my words abide in you.”  Have my words abided in you?”

My mind immediately skipped back to a Beth Moore Bible Study I had recently completed and a story she had told in her Breaking Free video where she told about a woman to whom God abruptly and forcefully spoke an admonition into her heart and mind saying, “Get in my Word!”

Those words resonated with me now too. God’s voice came through loud and clear in the recesses of my mind. I suddenly saw what was lacking: it was not only my knowledge of scripture, but my time reading His Word.  I was not consistent with daily Bible reading.  Oh, I had read through the New Testament a few times, but only once had I read all the way through the Old Testament. And I knew they are oh so connected!

So it came as a shock to me when I realized that although I had gazed upon that scripture on my mirror for years, I had missed an important part of it.

Abiding

Acting upon my new revelation, I got in God’s Word. I began spending time in the scriptures each day. I meditated on the verses I read.  I enrolled in Bible Study Fellowship, a wonderful, in depth study that digs down into God’s Word and plants His truths deep into the hearts of participants.  Although God’s Word had been alive to me before, through time in more intensive Bible Study and meditation, the scriptures themselves began to live in my heart and mind so I could begin to pull them up when I needed God’s wisdom.

As time continued to unfold, I saw that God was teaching me an important lesson about our dreams coming true. When we expect God to grant our desires, but our dreams aren’t coming true,  we may be missing something God wants to show us. In fact, He may have plans for us that are bigger than ours. His purposes for us may reach higher than our own limited vision allows, and we are not yet ready to receive them. That is what I saw happen to me and my writing.

This year, when I published my third book, Fighting for Your Marriage while Separated, I saw God’s hand in it at every level. A few weeks ago, when it won the Golden Scroll Non-fiction Book of the Year Award from AWSA, an association of distinguished Christian authors, I praised God that His ways are perfect and so much better than mine. He knew the plans He had for me. He knew the book He wanted me to write and publish that could bless people’s lives, families, and marriages in important and transformational ways. His plans were bigger than mine, and as I grasped hold of what God wanted to teach me, He allowed my dreams to come true in ways that surpassed my expectations.

He has plans for you too. If your dreams aren’t coming true, you may not be able to see what God is doing right now, but perhaps you too need to hunker down in His Word and let it come alive in your heart so you can see His bigger purposes unfold in your life.

What dreams do you have that aren’t coming true? What do you feel God saying to you about this right now? I love to see your comments.

If you are struggling through a difficult time in your marriage, please check out my new book, Fighting for Your Marriage while Separated

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Avoiding the 12 Relationship Mistakes Women Make – Interview with Author Georgia Shaffer

Relationships are challenging. And we all make mistakes.. But Georgia Shaffer, author of Avoiding the 12 Relationship Mistakes Women Make, believes there are 12 that are common to all of us, and we can avoid them if we can first identify them and then do the work to overcome them.  In addition to authoring several books, Georgia is a licensed psychologist in Pennsylvania, a Christian life coach, and a professional speaker who is a charter member of AACC’s International Christian Coaching Association. Her story and photos are featured in the film Letters to God, where she shares her story as a cancer survivor who was told over 22 years ago that she had a two percent chance of living another 10 years.

It’s a privilege to be able to spend some time with Georgia so she can share bits of her wisdom with you all.  I’m excited about what you’ll hear from her. And, by the way, Men, don’t let the title fool you. This is for you too.

Linda: In your book, Avoiding 12 Relationship Mistakes Women Make you talk a lot about relational blind spots. We can all relate to the idea of having visual blind spots when driving, but what do you mean by the term “relational blind spot”?

Georgia: A relational blind spot is our inability to see things in ourselves, or in others close to us, as they really are. A blind spot may also be something we do notice but discount as not important when, in fact, that thing is very significant. About 80 percent of the time, we see our connections with others accurately. But 20 percent of the time, we only think we see ourselves or our relationships clearly, when, in fact, we do not. Unfortunately, self-deception is not the exception.

 Linda: What led you to write about relational blind spots in this book?

 Georgia: Years ago when I was researching for a previous book, I came across the concept of “psychological blind spots.” The source did not refer to them as “relational.” As I thought about how they impact our interactions with others, I decided to call them “relational blind spots.”  What’s interesting is that I never learned about these blind spots, even though I’m a licensed psychologist in Pennsylvania. It was a new concept for me.

As I spoke about relational blind spots at retreats and conferences, I realized I wasn’t the only one that didn’t know about their existence.

Our relational blind spots are so important. Jesus talks about them in Matthew 7:3 when he says we fail to pay attention to our blindness. I wrote Avoiding the 12 Relationship Mistakes Women Make to help more people understand that we all have relational blind spots, what they are, and how we can minimize their destructive impact.

Linda: You talk about this for women.  But I don’t want to let the men off the hook here. So tell me, do men have relational blind spots too?

 Georgia: Even though the book focuses on women, men have the same blind spots as women do.

Common Blind Spots

 Linda: What is one of our most common blind spots?

 Georgia: The blind spot of failing to pay attention to our limitations.

 Just like a gas tank has a limited capacity and needs to be refilled to keep a car running, we have a limited amount of financial, physical, mental and emotional resources. If we fail to pay attention to our limits, rather than accepting and accommodating for them, our relationships suffer. Sometimes the relationship consequences of this failure are minor. We might just become mildly annoying and people might wish we would just relax. Other times, failure to heed our limitations can cause irreparable damage—like a divorce.

Rather than ignore our limitations, we need to embrace them. God created us with our particular limitations, so we honor him when we learn to live within them.

We need to be intentional about taking time to recharge and renew ourselves—physically, emotionally, and spiritually.  When I’m trying to do too much too fast, that’s usually when I am most crabby with those around me. Unfortunately, too many times I don’t realize how irritated or exhausted I am until I hurt someone’s feelings.

If your readers are interested in knowing all 12 of the relationship mistakes we make, they might want to visit the free resources page at www.GeorgiaShaffer.com for a complete list.

Linda: Once we realize we have blind spots, what can we do to protect our relationships from the destructive blind spots? Could you give us at least two examples?

Georgia: First, seek God’s wisdom: Jesus told his disciples, “Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear” (Matthew 13:16 NIV). To be like that, we need to pray that the Holy Spirit, the spirit of truth, will guide us and show us what we miss.

Second, listen to wise counsel: Since we can miss what is obvious to others, seeking and listening to wise counsel is vital. Other people usually have a clearer understanding of our shortcomings than we do. A neutral, trustworthy, wise person can give us insight into a difficult situation. In Proverbs 15:31 NLT, we read, “If you listen to constructive criticism, you will be at home among the wise.”

Be sure, however, to seek counsel only from safe, godly people you have learned are trustworthy. Don’t go around asking everyone’s advice. If you do, you will be sure to get bad advice.

Becoming Self-Aware

Linda:  You say that to have healthy relationships we have to see ourselves as we really are. What are some characteristics of people who are self-aware? 

Georgia: People who rate high in self-awareness are:

–        Clear about what they do well and how they can help others

–        Aware of their flaws and hidden motives

–        Willing to spend time on self-reflection

–        Open to learning from their mistakes 

One research study of top performers in a work setting found that 83 percent of them also rated high in self-awareness. If you want to be a top performer in your relationships, then you will cultivate self-awareness.

Linda:  Another interesting blind spot you write about is “Thinking we are the exception to the rule.” Tell me more about that.

 Georgia: We incorrectly assume that other people’s experiences don’t apply to our lives. We do this often. We think we’re different somehow. A friend who read a draft of Avoiding the 12 Relationship Mistakes Women Make told her husband about the illustration I used to discuss this blind spot. I talk about the visual blind spots we have on either side of a car’s front windshield. Unless we move our head forward and backward, something like a truck or pedestrian can be hidden behind the frame that supports the windshield.

My car doesn’t have that blind spot,” her husband said. A few weeks later, however, he came home from work, shaking.

“What happened?” my friend asked”

“I barely missed hitting a truck that was hidden by that blind spot on the side of my windshield. . . I guess I do have that blind spot after all.”

Although you are unique, that does not necessarily mean you are exceptional. As Romans 12:3 says, “Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment.”

Linda:  While I know we can’t avoid all misunderstandings and conflicts, what is another thing we can do routinely to minimize relational difficulties? 

Georgia: Be willing to cultivate self-awareness. Take time for reflection, asking God to help you see yourself as you are and to understand that he loves and accepts you as you are—the good parts and the unflattering ones.

At first, seeing ourselves as we are is uncomfortable. Once we make that breakthrough, we can make wiser decisions. Most importantly, we can experience the relational freedom God intends for us to enjoy.

 Linda: Thanks, Georgia. This has been helpful in looking at some of the relationship mistakes we make. Tell us again where we can learn more about the other relational blindspots and where we can find more about your book, 12 Relationship Mistakes Women Make. Also, some readers today may want to know how to find out more about your other books, including the one about surviving cancer, as well as your ministry and coaching.

Georgia: Avoiding the 12 Relationship Mistakes Women Make, along with the other books I’ve written, is available at www.GeorgiaShaffer.com on the book page. It can also be found at all online bookstores such as Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble.

 

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Why Can’t He Be More Like Me?, Author Interview with Poppy Smith

“Why can’t he be more like me?”

I’m sure many of us women have looked at our husbands at times and struggled with that question. Why does he do the things he does? Why can’t he think and act the way I do? In my interview with Poppy Smith about her book, Why Can’t He Be More Like Me?, you will learn her answer to that bewildering question.  It’s clear to me that Poppy feels deeply about marriage and the importance of sharing what she’s learned with women who are grappling with this issue, for despite a very busy schedule, she graciously worked this interview with me in between edits of her newest book and flights in and out of the country for speaking engagements.

Poppy Smith is British, married to an American, and is an international speaker and multi-published author.  Her delightful sense of humor and honest practicality is evident in some of her book titles: I’m Too Young to Be This Old; and I’m Too Human to Be Like Jesus.  I believe you will be encouraged by the wisdom she has to share with you.

Linda: Tell us why you wrote Why Can’t He Be More Like Me. Does it come from your personal struggles?

Poppy:  Marriage is difficult for many reasons and our culture’s message is, If you’re unhappy, move on. But God has another message, use your difficulties and differences to grow closer to Him and let Him change you.

I’m from England and met and married my American husband, Jim, when I lived and worked as a secretary in Kenya. Neither of us was in ministry. I was a young, immature Christian and Jim was a doctor with the Peace Corp. Six weeks after our wedding we came to America. I was 22, an immigrant without family or friends. Jim was the only person I knew and he was buried in his studies and work. Desperately lonely, I became very angry, questioning what I had done and where God was. I wanted to run back to Kenya or England, but knew that wasn’t what God wanted.

I was miserable for many years, but bit by bit God helped me. I learned to analyze where our problems were coming from, how to adjust my expectations, and how to accept life with someone who was my total opposite. As a speaker, author, and spiritual life-coach, I’ve found that through my difficult experiences I’m able to identify with and minister to both single and married women. I wrote, Why Can’t He Be More Like Me? to help women who are considering marriage, or baffled and upset by the man they married. It is full of practical tools and quizzes to help singles and couples understand themselves and why their relationship isn’t all they dreamed of and what they can do about it.

Linda: What do you think lies behind difficulties in marriage?

 Poppy:  There are many reasons. We have expectations that we’ve never been aware of, until we find them not being met.  Often we assume we have the same ways of looking at things, same values, same tastes, and same priorities.  We think our way of thinking and doing things is normal and wonder what the matter is with our spouse. My chapter, He’s Not My Clone, deals with many of these reasons.

 Linda: Do you think that a couple’s different upbringings can sometimes contribute to difficulties?poppy-smith

Poppy: Yes, even if you marry the boy next door, you still had different upbringings that can produce conflict. I expected my husband to lock the doors at night because my father did, Jim didn’t think about it because they never locked their home on the farm.  I tackle this common source of many disagreements in We Weren’t Raised in the Same Home. We can have different values, work ethics, ideas on raising children, handling conflict, money, communication and countless other issues because we were raised differently.

Linda: What about their different personalities and ways of processing information and events?

Poppy: Research shows that the brains of men and women are wired differently.  Understanding this fact can reduce a lot of conflict.  Understanding your personality type is also extremely helpful.  You might want to be involved in lots of events, but your spouse might prefer a quieter life. He might have high energy and want to be the life of the party, maybe he is loud or dominant. You might be the opposite, soft-spoken and preferring quiet.  Opposites often attract, but unless both partners learn to accept and respect one another, their differences can often lead to attacks.   There’s no perfect match of personalities that will ensure a happy marriage. In the end, every relationship is determined by how you treat each other. Appreciate your different strengths and focus on them.

Linda: In Why Can’t He Be More Like Me, you talk about men and women having some emotional needs in common, but they also have different needs.  Tell us more about that.

Poppy: Studies show that a primary need of women is affection.  For men, it is sexual intimacy.

Most of us feel loved when our husband spontaneously hugs and kisses us.  The majority of men, however, feel loved and accepted when their wife is sensitive to their sexual needs. Both want to feel loved, but it is perceived in different ways.  God made men with a legitimate sexual hunger that we are to respect as part of His design. Other human needs we have in common are attention, admiration, companionship, encouragement and domestic support.

Linda: Learning to communicate so you both hear what the other is saying is a key part of understanding each other.  What have you found most helpful?

Poppy: I took it for granted that my husband would know when I wanted attention and affection. That he’d know the sweet, soothing words I needed when I was upset. When this didn’t happen, I was hurt and wallowed in disappointment and negativity toward him.  I’ve learned that I need to adjust my expectations of him, because he just doesn’t think or respond as I would. He’s not bad, he’s a man. He’s not a woman and he’s not my clone.  I now explain my feelings and needs to him and ask for what I want at that moment. In addition, we’ve both learned to speak up when we feel hurt by the other. This enables us to apologize and grow closer as a couple.  

Linda: How can a couple find healthy ways to deal with conflict.

Poppy: I give many steps to defuse conflict in He Handles Conflict One Way, I Handle It Another. Four simple tips are: Learn to stop and ask yourself: what is this conflict about? Sometimes you’re reacting to different issues and don’t realize it.

Listen to each other’s reasoning and feelings without interrupting.

Decide what’s best for your relationship, not who is right.

Practice taking turns with who gets their preference.

Linda: Where can people find your book, Why Can’t He Be More Like Me?

Poppy:  You can order it anywhere books are sold. I’m delighted to send a signed copy if it’s ordered from my website: www.poppysmith.com  Your readers can find more at my website about my other books and the various topics I speak on—including marriage, domestic violence, the power of our words, and how to thrive no matter what.

 

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Understanding Personality Differences in Your Marriage

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One of the odd and sometimes sad realities of many marriages is that the opposites, which originally contributed to your falling in love, can actually begin to erode the relationship in the later stages of marriage. The same opposites that first attracted you can eventually become annoying and bring about conflict.

To the serious minded person, that happy-go-lucky personality that originally beguiled her can begin to feel frivolous and unsupportive. She wants someone who helps around the house and relieves some of the workload. Likewise, for the fun-loving person who was originally drawn to the character strengths of his serious-minded mate, those qualities can eventually begin to seem dull, drab, and unexciting. He doesn’t want to spend his time working; he wants someone who likes to have fun.

In this kind of scenario, resentments can grow and marriages begin to unravel.

But it doesn’t have to be this way. Understanding those basic personality traits and learning to use the strengths and weaknesses of each partner to compliment the other can actually give you a stronger marriage and fill in the gaps. As you learn to appreciate each other’s strengths and humbly admit your own weaknesses, you become a stronger team to face life’s challenges.

Ann and Rocky

 

“When we learned about the personality differences and saw that I was a lion and he was an otter, we began to understand why we had some of the conflicts we had,” Ann told our Marriage 911 class when she and her husband gave their testimony a few years after they had reconciled from a four year separation. ”It was so much easier for us to work together and make the most of our strengths and weaknesses. Understanding the personalities made a huge difference in our relationship and the way we interacted with each other.”

The “lion” and “otter” Ann refers to are the terms sometimes used to describe two of the four personality types first developed by Hippocrates. The more universal terms used by him and many personality professionals are sanguine, choleric, melancholy, and phlegmatic. The animal equivalents Ann referred to are otter, lion, beaver, and golden retriever. Some newer and more descriptive terms developed by Linda Golden and Linda Goldfarb in their book, Linked, Maximizing Life Connections One Link at Time, are socializer, mobilizer, organizer, and stabilizer.

Understanding Personality Differences

As Gilden and Goldfarb describe them, the socializer or sanguine is the  playful one or the life of the party, the mobilizer or choleric is the powerful personality that gets things done, the organizer or melancholy is the purposeful personality who keeps everything in order, and the stabilizer or phlegmatic is the easy going one who keeps things peaceful.

When my husband Marv and I took the tests, we discovered he falls into the sanguine, otter, socializer cagegory, and I am the melancholy, beaver, organizer. Marv has a great sense of humor, is a good conversationalist and a people magnet and is generally tuned into the pop culture. I am more serious and analytical, usually have a list to accomplish, and love working with words. My secondary trait is socializer and  his is stabilizer. I love the fun he brings into my life, and he appreciates my nesting instincts that keep our lives in order.

Through the years we’ve gradually learned how our personality characteristics can work together to form a more perfect union as man and wife, but it has taken time.

Packing for Family Vacations

When Marv and I went on a recent trip to the mountains, we laughed at the angst we used to experience in our early marriage when we took vacations with the children. One of the stresses we regularly encountered was the job of packing the car. Being the husband, the father, and the man of the house, he would haul the suitcases out to the car and load them into the trunk. I would typically come out, look inside, and want him to rearrange things to make more room for additional bags and paraphernalia the children and I would bring.  It was one of the conflicts that often put a damper on the start of family road trips.

After many years of such frustration, we finally came to a realization about our innate strengths and weaknesses and made a change that satisfied us both. So today while he is stronger than I and carries the suitcases out to the car, I take on the role of organizer and happily set about moving the suitcases and bags around in the trunk until everything fits perfectly. For me as the melancholy, beaver, organizer personality, it is like putting together a puzzle. Meanwhile, he can sit back and watch me maneuver things around while getting out some music CDs to play in the car. As a result, the car is less crowded and more neatly put together and the trip more enjoyable.. Both of us are happy.

Discovering Your Personality Types

By taking the tests at one of the links below, you can discover your own personality type and that of your spouse. Often you will find you have a dominant personality type and one that runs a close second. When you recognize your own strengths and weaknesses and those of your mate you can begin to work together as a team by minimizing your own weaknesses in the home environment and benefiting from each other’s strengths.

Eventually, you may find that when you step back from some of your misunderstandings and look at them from the perspective of your personality differences, problematic practices can be tweaked so both of you win.

You can take an online test at one of the following links to discover your own personality types and that of your spouse.

Gotoquiz.com

Solvemymaths.files.wordpress.com

For more help in bringing reconciliation to a troubled marriage, read Fighting for Your Marriage while Separated.

 

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12 Keys for Marriage Success, Interview with Author Joyce Zook

What does a good marriage look like? For those struggling in broken marriages, that’s a lofty aspiration. But if your marriage is still intact, you may benefit from the advice of author and marriage coach Joyce Zook, who believes she can not only show women what a good marriage looks like, but how to create a wonderful marriage. She tells us more about this in our interview about her award-winning book, 12 Keys for Marriage Success. Although this book is for women, some of you men may glean something from her comments as well.

What inspired you to write 12 Keys for Marriage Success?

I love my life and my marriage, but it has not always been full of pleasant experiences. My loving husband, Aaron, and I have been married for forty years, but my first marriage ended in divorce and abuse. I wrote the book because I wanted to tell other women how they could experience the love we have found.

What guided you in your search for creating a successful marriage?

We got married in a small ceremony at my husband’s family home in Pennsylvania. Over the next two years, we both accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, and neither of us desired a repeat of our shameful pasts. Our mentors suggested we study the Bible and reap the benefits from the wellspring of knowledge it encompasses.

When we applied what we learned, we fought less often, and our friendship and devotion for one another grew. Best of all, joy and peace filled our hearts when we implemented the truths we discovered.

How did you come up with 12 Keys to improve marriages?

After speaking for many years on Love that Lasts a Lifetime, I got invited to do a radio interview. They wanted twelve questions they could ask me about creating long-lasting marriages. I chose to give them the main points from my talk and the specific lesson I had learned.

The subtitle of your book is “what a wife can do to create a wonderful marriage.” Tell me how a wife can change her marriage all by herself? Most people think it takes two people to make a marriage work.

Some men join their wives and put forth the effort to improve their marriages and others refuse. Most guys won’t even pick up a self-help book or visit a counselor. Therefore, wives often strive alone to revive their relationships without the assistance of their spouse.

The Lord never stops caring for us and continues to guide and show us how we can have marriages filled with His love. Just as the Lord doesn’t’ give up on us, neither should we end our attempts to rekindle love while any spark of hope still exists.

I encourage women to press on even if it’s by themselves because most marriages get better with their consistent efforts. And best of all, God will help us to repair and restore our marital relationships

What are the 12 Keys for Marriage Success?

  • Key 1: Stick Like Glue ─ Staying married takes commitment
  • Key 2:Think Like a Couple ─ Leave singleness behind and develop your new identity as a couple
  • Key 3 Let God Direct ─Get to know the Creator of marriage the Bible, prayer, and worship
  • Key 4: Give Your Best ─ Give yourself and your husband a gift of a happy, healthy and rested you
  • Key 5: Save Time for Your Husband ─ Rearrange your schedule and find time to spend with the man you married
  • Key 6 : Respect Your Man ─ Affirm your husband’s opinions and preferences. Honor your husband by respecting his ideas, capabilities and worth
  • Key 7: No Nagging ─ Change yourself first, and you set the atmosphere for him to want to alter his actions
  • Key 8: Admire Your Hunk ─ Praise his body, personality, work ethic and he won’t be a tempted to look elsewhere for attention
  • Key 9 : Do It His Way­ Learn to follow his lead as an act of submission to the Lord
  • Key 10 : Talk – Talk – Talk­ Learn the basic techniques to have a good fight and discuss the problems which plague your marriage
  • Key 11 : Date Your Mate ─Spend quality time alone by dating your spouse to keep the fun, and romance alive
  • Key 12: Light the Fire ­ Celebrate your love for each other and learn to get in the mood for those intimate moments

How can we get our men to change their bad habits or other things we don’t like?

As much as we would like to do it, we can’t change our men. Fact is, we can’t make anyone willingly alter their behavior by our words or our willpower. The only person we can force to modify their actions is ourselves, which is extremely hard. But we can set up circumstances which make our husbands want to adapt and adjust their lives for the better.

If we try to fix or force our spouses to perform a task our way, it frequently backfires. It is possible though to amend our own behavior and thereby produce an atmosphere which influences our guys to change their reactions to us.

Can you give me an example of how this works?

Say two people are dancing together on the dance floor when one of them decides they want something to drink and walks away. The other person, now stranded in the middle of the room, has to determine what they will do. They usually do something different, often following their partner to get refreshments.

The same thing happens in our marriages. When one person makes significant changes in their actions and responses, the other person has to decide what they will do next. When our husbands experience our consistent behavior changes, they will usually modify what they do. Consequently, marriages begin to heal.

I love your analogy of the dance. Let’s talk about nagging though. We wives are often guilty of nagging in trying to bring about change. Please tell us why nagging doesn’t work.

Our spouses rarely exchange their behavior for a different type of response due to our nagging or critical comments. If we sound like their mother, most guys tune us out or walk away in anger. Grown men don’t want to be told what to do or be treated as children.

Nagging rarely causes anyone to switch what they do without resentment. But our husbands will show a renewed interest in us as women and wives when they experience our acceptance and admiration for who they are.

Shifting our behavior to act as their girlfriend and lover, not their mom, causes our mates’ reactions to turn for the better. We create an environment which invites them to adjust their conduct because they feel valued. Once they sense our continued support, they begin to express their appreciation and love for us more readily.

One of the 12 Keys you list in your book is “Date Your Mate.” How does dating our husbands help heal a damaged marriage?

We yearn for marriages packed full of passion and romance where we are cherished by our men. To maintain this type of close connection means we have to devote quality time to be with our spouses on a regular basis. Weekly dates protect our friendship with our husband, keep the passion alive and maintain open lines of communication.

What do dates for a married couple look like?

Good dates involve three parts. First, we need time alone with our guys. Then we want to do a fun activity to enjoy each other while chatting and getting reconnected. Finally, dates for husbands and wives include private time to celebrate our love for one another. Sharing the pleasure of making love may happen before the date, after, or the next morning.

What’s the most important thing you want women to take away when they read your book?

Marriages can change for the better. Suppose our guys don’t show any initiative to work on the relationship or don’t agree there’s a problem to fix. We still have the opportunity to completely transform our marriages even if we are the only ones trying to improve it. Our consistent adjustments to our conduct set the stage for our mates to reconsider their responses and actions.

The Lord works through and alongside us as we embrace His truths to build the deep connections we crave with our husbands. We can discover greater happiness and a richer intimacy with our husbands by incorporating the twelve keys for marriage success into our lives.

Where can people find out more about your book 12 Keys for Marriage Success and your other books as well?

Readers can visit www.Joyce@JoyceZook.com for more information about my books, my coaching services, and free resources.

 

 

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When New Life Appears

This is what the Sovereign Lord says to these bones: I will make breath enter you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the Lord. Ezekiel 37:5, 6b

When the city arborist stopped by to tell us they had received a grant to plant new trees in our neighborhood, we were delighted. We would receive two Shumard oaks, hearty ones that would grow tall and had a long life span, unlike our pretty laurel oaks that suffered so much in recent hurricanes.

The city planted the oaks, and someone came by regularly to pour water into the irrigation sacks around their trunks. However, a few weeks later the leaves on one of them started turning brown. Before long all the foliage on the tree appeared dead.

One evening when we went out for a walk, Marv said, “I wonder if they’ll take that tree out and bring us a new one,”

“Maybe we should call the city and let them know it’s dead,” I said. “It apparently never got a strong start.”

Each day we speculated about its prospects but didn’t make any calls, and the tree remained.

One morning Marv announced that a city truck came by and the driver again watered our new tree. We shook our heads and wondered why they were still watering a tree that was clearly dead. A few days later, however, when we stepped outside, we noticed a few green leaves at its base. The city continued watering it, and each evening as we went out to take our walk, we were astonished to see new life appear as green leaves continued to spread from the bottom to the top. In a few weeks, the entire tree was green once more. Our new Shumard oak was alive and growing.

“It’s amazing how that tree has come back to life,” Marv said. “You should use it in one of your stories. It would be a good analogy for marriages.”

When New Life Appears in a Marriage

It was, in fact, a good analogy for what had happened in our own marriage. For although at one time our marriage seemed dead, we gradually saw new life appear.

I remembered an afternoon thirteen years earlier at the beginning of what was to become our painful three-year separation. At this point, Marv and I hadn’t seen each other for two months, and the Christian couple he was staying with urged him to come talk to me. When I saw him at the door, I hoped it would be the beginning of reconciliation, but his downcast face quickly told me otherwise.

He slumped in the burgundy club chair he always sat in when we had our “talks.” I sat on the couch.

“I can’t tell you anything you want to hear,” he said dolefully.

My heart withered. I knew that meant he couldn’t say he loved me. I knew that meant he couldn’t say he wanted to reconcile our marriage. But, being a gentleman, he didn’t want to say the words. He didn’t want to hurt me more than he already had.

But I knew. The absence of words told me the ones left unsaid.

I plied him with questions, but he remained expressionless, and his answer stayed the same. When he left, I ran upstairs and collapsed on the bed, sobbing. I could see he felt our marriage was dead.

But like the Shumard oak, even though our marriage appeared to be dead, unbeknownst to either of us, a flicker of life still lingered.

As the months unfolded, each of us began allowing God to convict us of what we individually needed to do to change the dynamics between us. It took time, patience, and grace. But when we gave God the freedom to make us the new persons He wanted us to be, we began to see new life appear in our relationship. Our love returned, and we eventually reconciled.

A New Foundation of Love

Some time after we got back together, a sweet moment signaled that a new foundation of love had finally been rebuilt between us. I had removed the biscuits from the oven, placed the cookie sheet on the stove top, and begun placing the plump rolls onto the serving dish. The rich aroma of pot roast filled the kitchen. Feeling movement behind me, I turned.

Marv’s eyes sparkled as he looked at me. He leaned down and kissed me. “I love you,” he said warmly.

I wrapped my arms around his neck, and he held me tight. “I’m glad to be spending my life with you,” he said.

My heart danced as I gazed happily into his eyes. “Me too.”

Although the words “I love you” were common between us now, the spontaneous gesture gave them special meaning. No longer did the debris of brokenness dull the luster of our renewed relationship. The past hurts had scattered. The empty hole had filled. Our love was truly reborn. Twenty years and five grandchildren after that heart-wrenching day in our living room, life is as good as I could ever have hoped.

Marv tells the men in our marriage classes every week, “Feelings change. Don’t make your decisions based on feelings because they’re unreliable and they change.”

We are living examples. Marriages that appear to be dead can indeed be reborn. Many times people come to us saying the love in their marriage has died. However, when God is given the freedom to work in each of their lives, He can open their hearts to one another so green leaves of new life can begin to sprout.

When new life appears in a marriage it is a testimony to the promise of new life God gives to us both through nature and His Word. His power to bring life from death rocked the world 2,000 years ago and continues to rock the world today.

Share your heart. How can God make things new in your life?

© Linda Rooks 2019

Fighting for Your Marriage while Separated available on Amazon and other online retailers

Listen to Marv and Linda’s story in a three-part series on Family Life Today as they both share from the heart about their separation and restoration.

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Fighting for Your Marriage While Separated

MY NEW BOOK, FIGHTING FOR YOUR MARRIAGE WHILE SEPARATED, A Practical Guide for the Brokenhearted, released this week and is now available on Amazon. My own story of separation and reconciliation, along with the powerful stories of others who’ve walked this road, have prepared me to bring you this battle plan for reconciliation—stories which were born in pain, but now offer new life to struggling marriages.

What Turned Things Around?

But a curious thing happened to me the other morning.

Whenever I’m interviewed on radio or TV one of the inevitable questions I’m asked is what happened to turn things around during my three-year separation from my husband so we were able to reconcile our marriage.  That has always been a difficult question for me to answer because there wasn’t just one thing that made the difference. There were many.

But a few mornings ago as I was praying about an interview I had later that day, I suddenly realized I did have the answer! It was right in front of my eyes when I opened the first pages of my new book!  It was there in my chapter titles. Each chapter was an expansion of one of the things that had contributed to my own reconciliation story. Without realizing it, as I tried to show others how they could fight for their marriages and win, I had laid out the steps that lead to my own marriage reconciliation.

Through the years I’ve received many emails from readers of Broken Heart on Hold, asking me questions about their own marital challenges as they struggled to find reconciliation for their marriages. After finding hope, strength and encouragement for their marriages in the words of Broken Heart on Hold, they wanted to know how to take the next step. Fighting for Your Marriage while Separated provides the answers to these questions.

Fighting for Your Marriage while Separated, begins where Broken Heart on Hold left off, continuing to guide you through the labyrinths of separation, this time with practical answers to your questions and true life stories to give you hope.

Today I’m giving you a peek into the chapters so you can get a glimpse of some of the things you can put into your arsenal so you can fight for your marriage and win even if you’re separated and fighting for your marriage alone. Each chapter of Fighting for Your Marriage while Separated provides one more link to the winning strategy that brought not only my marriage back together, but many other marriages as well.

Fighting for Your Marriage while Separated

  1. Reacting to Your New Situation – When a spouse first leaves, the one left behind is devastated and often caught off guard. He or she is tempted to react in reckless ways that may actually push his or her mate further away. The first chapter shows the reader how to take steps to turn rash reactions into constructive responses.
  1. Sizing up Your Relationship Dynamics – Looking at the assertive versus passive natures of each spouse in their marriage relationship can provide a surprising glimpse into what brought them to the point of brokenness. This chapter shows the reader how to unravel these complex dynamics and begin moving in a positive direction toward healing.
  1. Exchanging Negative Communication Patterns for Positive Ones – Our negative responses to one another form reactionary circles that take us around and around in a repetitious pattern of interaction that produces the same frustration and hurts again and again. But either spouse can interrupt this sequence of interactions and change the dynamics of the relationship. This chapter shows you how that can be done.
  1. Finding Power in Positive Words –The road to restoring a marriage is paved with responses that will most likely seem unnatural in the midst of anger and deep pain. Taking a positive approach, instead of following negative instincts, can turn a marriage around. How do you actually do this?
  1. Drawing on Outside Help – Those who are separated need support from others to work through the pain and find healthy answers. Knowing where to turn for help and how to recognize the difference between helpful vs. unhelpful support makes a difference. Even when choosing a counselor, it’s important to understand the difference between individual counselors and marriage counselors. Not all counselors are trained in marriage counseling, and an untrained counselor who tries to work with couples can do more harm than good. Marriage counseling is more difficult because the counselor is ministering to three separate clients at the same time and needs to know how to handle any conflict that may erupt in a counseling session. Knowing what to look for and what to avoid is important in getting the help you need.
  1. Protecting Your Child’s Heart – The children of a separated couple are torn in many directions emotionally, but usually hover in the background, unnoticed. How do we help them through their loneliness and confusion without entangling them in our own pain and disappointments? One of my own daughters, who not only suffered through my three-year separation but is now a mental health counselor, sheds light on this important but often overlooked subject.
  1. Stepping into the Prayer Closet – Effective prayer for our marriages encompasses much more than we think. Praying for restoration is only the beginning as we humble ourselves and allow God to sift the chaff from our hearts and lives, pray sacrificially for our spouses, and surrender everything to God.
  1. Letting Go–The Hardest Prescription – The true answer to turning the marriage around starts with letting go of control and giving it all to the God who knows how to put together the broken pieces of our lives to create something beautiful. How do we do that?
  1. Unwrapping the New You – To have a healthy marriage, we need two healthy individuals in that marriage. The separated person not only needs to take care of him/herself, but also let God unwrap the potential within. God uses the trials in our lives for a purpose. One of His purposes is to make us into more of the person He first designed us to be. We have a creative God who can use this time to take us on a new personal adventure of growth.
  1. Turning the Prayer Closet into a War Room – Once we have humbled ourselves and completely put our trust in God, we are ready to declare war on the enemy of our marriage. We begin by entering into God’s courts with praise and then dress ourselves piece by piece in the power of the armor of God.
  1. Making Tough Choices – How do we love the spouse who is tearing our marriage apart and protect ourselves as well? How do we handle a mate caught up in addictions or an affair? And what about an abusive spouse? In setting appropriate heart guards, it’s important to find that fine line between love and self-protection. An in-depth discussion with Counselor, John Tardonia, about physical abuse, a look at how to handle infidelity, and a powerful story from the trenches about addiction will help us find the answers.
  1. Dating as Friends – One perplexing issue a separated couple often begins to grapple with at some point is whether or not they can be friends while separated. The surprising answer to this is that a period of friendship dating can actually be a positive step toward putting a marriage back together.
  1. Knowing If It’s Time To Reconcile – Even when a prodigal spouse is ready to return, the timing may or may not be right for true reconciliation. There is a way that will successfully bring the marriage back together in a healthy forever relationship, and there’s a wrong way that may cause the marriage to break apart again. What are the signs that a separated couple is ready to get back together and rebuild a solid marriage? The story of a couple who did it both the wrong way and the right way sheds light on this subject.
  1. Learning to Live with the Same Spouse in a New Marriage – When a couple finally gets back together, how do they ensure that their marriage has a firmer foundation than before and that bad habits won’t return? How do they create safety for each other? And when relapses do occur, how should they handle them? My husband Marv and I share a number of principles that can help the new reconciled marriage become the marriage you always wanted.
  1. Coping With the “D” Word – Lurking in the separated person’s mind is a dark, dreaded fear. What if, after all the waiting, their mate still decides to file? Wherever this road leads, God has provided. You needn’t be afraid. God’s perfect love will carry you through no matter what happens. Answers to common questions about divorce are provided and helpful programs recommended.
  1. Who Are You Holding For? – Although your heart has been on hold for your spouse, it is only when you truly fill your heart up with Jesus that you will find a completely healed heart. He’s the only one who will give us a perfect love. In your waiting, God has brought you something more precious than what you thought you’d lost—the sweet intimacy of a deeper relationship with Christ. Two stories with different endings show how God is not limited by our own expectations and brings the beauty of restoration to us in different ways.

Finding the Hope to Fight the Fight

If you are separated, there is hope—even if you’re fighting for your marriage alone. Our culture is filled with misconceptions. One of them comes regularly whenever I begin telling people about the many marriages I’ve seen reconcile. After a sad sigh, one person will often say, “But it takes two to want to reconcile.”

While it ultimately does take two to finally get back together, it doesn’t take two to start the process of reconciliation. One spouse, alone, who is willing to trust God, focus on Him, and surrender the marriage to God, can often bring about restoration. But he or she needs to trust God’s ways and His timing and realize God has purposes beyond their own. Yes, eventually, it does take two. But God will restore the person who waits on Him during the waiting, sometimes in unexpected ways, regardless of the eventual outcome.

So come and join the battle. Let me join you as you fight for your marriage. I want to show you principles and strategies to help you win—even if you’re separated and fighting for your marriage alone. Together, let’s look to the Commander and seek Him for direction.

Fighting for Your Marriage while Separated, A Practical Guide for the Brokenhearted

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Taking Out Your Emotional Trash, Author Interview with Georgia Shaffer

When torn wrapping paper and mashed-in boxes pile up after Christmas, it feels good to carry the trash out to the curb and see it hauled away. It’s great to get everything cleaned up so we can start fresh. Author Georgia Shaffer, Professional Certified Coach with the International Coach Federation and a licensed psychologist in Pennsylvania, helps us see another pile of trash littering our lives that we may be unaware of – emotional trash. In her book, Taking Out Your Emotional Trash, Georgia provides eye-opening insights that can profoundly transform the way we deal with negative feelings and thoughts that might unwittingly bring havoc to our lives.

Linda: Georgia, we can all relate to the job of “taking out our trash,” but what led you to write Taking Out Your Emotional Trash?

Georgia: Like many, I grew up in a home where I never learned the skills needed to handle my disappointments, insecurities, or anger in a healthy way. As a result, my feelings and deep hurts piled up and created more pain in my relationships. It took me years to learn how to deal constructively with my emotions.

As a professional certified coach and licensed psychologist in Pennsylvania, I’ve seen how other people struggle with their negative feelings. Too often they wait until a crisis before saying, “I need help.” Unfortunately, it’s usually our closest relationships, like our marriage, that brings our junk to the surface and it’s those relationships that suffer the most. I wrote Taking Out Your Emotional Trash to help people dump their junk before they trash their relationships. I want people to experience less stress and more of the energy, peace and joy that comes when we get rid of any potentially toxic feelings in a healthy way.

Linda: Could you share with us your definition of “emotional trash”? 

Georgia: I define “emotional trash” as the negative thoughts, feelings and attitudes that accumulate in our hearts and minds, which, when ignored or denied, can lead to strong emotional reactions where we say or do something we later regret.

It’s not that our emotions are unhealthy or dangerous – it’s what we do or don’t do with them that creates problems.

For example, I have a friend whose garbage was not collected one week in the summer and so her husband stored it behind a shed in their back yard. A week later, the night before trash day, he carried it back out to the curb. But it wasn’t until he walked into their garage, back into the light, that he noticed maggots crawling all over his sleeves and hands.

If their garbage had been picked up at the scheduled time, it would not have become infested—and he would have been spared a creepy experience.

The same thing happens to us in our marriages when our grudges and unresolved anger are not dealt with properly and in a timely fashion.  They create the emotional equivalent of maggots crawling all over us.

Linda: At the beginning of the book you talk about spending a day on a beach filled with trash, and how most of the people walked or played around it as if they did not see it. Then you say we often have emotions that we ourselves don’t see or have numbed or grown used to.  What an interesting insight. Can you give us an example? 

Georgia: Resentment is a great example of an unhealthy or destructive feeling that we don’t recognize.  It’s like living near a fast food restaurant and getting use to the smell. After a while we aren’t even aware of its existence.

For example, pay attention to times when you react, rather than respond, to your spouse or someone in your family.  You might be tired or distracted, or your snappish comment could be the result of a deeper resentment lurking beneath the surface. Sometimes our poor attitude has more to do with something deeply rooted in our hearts. For example, one woman recently realized her constant sarcastic remarks to her husband stemmed from the fact that thirty years earlier her husband had encouraged her to get an abortion before they were married.  She had grown used to her bitterness, and it wasn’t until she grieved over the loss of a close relationship that she realized she needed to work through all the emotions that came with her abortion so she could forgive her husband.

Linda: You write about how easily our wants and tightly held expectations can get distorted into needs. You say wrong thinking and a lack of self-awareness can plunge us into a downward cycle. How do we reverse this tendency? 

Georgia: It’s important to pay attention to the expectations we hold too tightly.   Our legitimate desires can become warped by wrong thinking when we believe an expectation we have for our spouse is really a need. James warns of this, “What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you?” (James 4:1 NIV).

Unless we are paying attention, our unfulfilled desires can plunge us into a downward cycle that looks like this: “I desire that you help me rake the leaves” becomes “I need you to help me.” or “I demand that you help with the fall cleanup.”  Then it can go on to become: “And if you fail to do this, I will punish you in some way –either by withholding my time and attention or by attacking you verbally.”

To reverse this downward cycle, we must 1) recognize which desires have become something we believe we need, 2) grieve the loss of what can’t and might never be, and then 3) embrace what is. It is only at that point we can learn to live with the tension that comes with having desires and dreams without demanding that God or others fulfill them.

Linda: In Taking Out Your Emotional Trash, you talk about destructive and constructive ways of handling anger. Most of us agree that physical and verbal aggressions are harmful, but what are some other destructive ways? And how can we express our anger constructively? 

Georgia: Anger is an energy that needs to be channeled in the right direction at the right time in the right way. Destructive ways of expressing our anger include 

  • Making sarcastic or critical remarks – delivering that zinger and then saying, “I’m only kidding.”
  • Giving the silent treatment – not communicating to your spouse or friend for days or weeks
  • Withholding something like your affection, time or attention, the very thing you know your partner wants.

Whereas some constructive expressions of anger are

  • Exercising
  • Journaling
  • Talking to a safe friend or counselor
  • Righting a wrong
  • Fighting a righteous battle
  • Addressing the relational issue

Linda: You write that it’s important to understand forgiveness as both a choice and a process. What do you mean by that?  

Georgia: First, forgiveness is a choice—not a feeling. But even when you make the decision to forgive, that’s only the beginning. The next step is to work through the feelings of hurt, anger, sadness or betrayal.

You might forgive someone on an intellectual level, but if you fail to do the emotional work then you won’t heal on a deeper level. Working through the process means you verbalize what happened to you and how you feel about it. When you get stuck or want to nurse your grudges, remember what God has done for you and how you’re forgiven. You also want to remember that for something like adultery, it can take months, sometimes even years before you are truly free of the pain.  One of the reasons, it can take so long is we can only handle the pain a little bit at a time. 

Linda: What would you say to someone who is ready to face their bottled-up feelings—their “emotional trash” –but who is overwhelmed by the task?  

Georgia: Many of us get stuck at one point or another in our lives– that’s normal.

One summer I decided to clean my 2-car garage, which at the time barely had room for one car.  It didn’t take me long to realize that making the choice to clean my garage and doing it were two different things. I was overwhelmed by the size of the task. Two months later I still hadn’t done anything.

One friend told me to start in a corner and another friend suggested I do one box or one shelf at a time. But I was still paralyzed by the huge task. Finally, I decided the only way I was going to make any headway was to tackle the job one item at a time. Was I going to throw it out, give it away, or keep it?

The project took five months to complete. But the transformation was amazing. Now I have more space—enough for two cars—but I also have more energy, more joy, and even more money since I now know what I already have and where it is.

If you’re feeling stuck and overwhelmed, focus on one issue at a time. Pray and ask the Lord to show you, “Where do I need to start?  What is the next best step for me? What is one thing I can do?” Don’t be afraid to seek the help of a friend or a Christian counselor because sometimes you can’t do it alone.

Linda: Most of us have emotional meltdowns occasionally. What can we do to minimize these meltdowns, so we can protect our marriages?

Georgia: Be honest with yourself and ask, “Why do I resist dealing with my hurt or feelings?” Are you telling yourself you’re too busy to deal with them or that you have a right to be bitter with, say, with your spouse? Do you think the sadness will destroy you? Do you think if you ignore your unresolved anger it will disappear? The problem with not facing your feelings is it usually means at some point in the future you’ll find yourself spending a day—or more—unable to do anything but deal with your hurt and pain.

Therefore, you want to create and maintain routines that will help you pay attention to how you are doing emotionally and spiritually. Ask yourself: “How am I doing in my closest relationships? Am I reacting or responding to what’s going on around me? Am I getting enough sleep, rest, and exercise?  Am I maintaining a sustainable pace?  Am I protecting myself from total depletion?

Here’s the bottom line. Waste management today can take twenty plastic soda bottles and make a Polertec fleece out of them. But that’s nothing compared to what Jesus can do with your emotional garbage. He’s the master of waste management. He can take your junk and make something beautiful out of it—but you must be willing to give it to him.

Each one of us has emotional trash. The question is what are you doing with yours? Are you holding onto it or are you getting rid of it so you can be free to be the person God created you to be?

Linda: Wonderful insights, Georgia! Where can people find out more about you, your book, Taking Out Your Emotional Trash and your other books as well?

Georgia: Readers can visit  www.GeorgiaShaffer.com for more information about my books, my coaching services, and free resources.

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Don’t Go To Bed Angry, Stay Up and Fight, Interview with Author Deb DeArmond

Conflict and poor communication skills are often cited as some of the top reasons for divorce today. Deb DeArmond and her husband Ron, in their newest book, Don’t Go To Bed Angry, Stay Up and Fight, provide insight into how to divert potential conflict into a healthy conversation instead. In our interview Deb maps out a plan for couples when anger escalates and is about to undermine a necessary discussion. In addition to authoring three books on family relationships, Deb is a speaker and relationship coach with the goal of helping her clients improve their interactions both at work and at home. Don’t Go To Bed Angry won the 2018 Selah Award for Christian non-fiction.

Linda: The title of your book is intriguing, Deb. What do you mean when you say, “Don’t go to bed angry; stay up and fight?”

Deb: When my husband and I wrote this book, Linda, we conducted surveys, interviews, and facilitated a focus group. Most Christians who attended marriage preparation or counseling through their church were given the direction found in Ephesians 4:26: “And don’t sin by letting anger control you. Don’t let the sun go down while you are still angry,” (NLT). It’s often considered the most significant rule of marital bliss offered to engaged or newly married couple.

But let’s examine the scripture carefully. It does not say: “Stay up all night if necessary until you come to a mutual solution.” Nor does the passage suggest, “There will be no sleep until you have arrived at a peaceful, detailed decision you can both support.”

It’s not what it says. But it’s what many of us have come to believe.

Linda: What would you say this scripture directs us to do?

Deb: Just as it suggests: Steer clear of sin and refuse to let anger control the conversation. The scripture encourages us to stop the anger and take it out of the equation. How? We stop the discussion once we recognize anger has taken center stage, directing what we say and how we say it.

Linda: So if couples stop the discussion at this point, what do they do instead? How do they proceed to find a solution to the conflict?

Deb: We deal with the anger. Right then, in that moment. Either spouse can stop and say something like, “Let’s step back for a moment. We’ve lost control of the discussion and anger has taken over the conversation. It’s not pleasing to God and it’s not good for us. Would you forgive me for allowing the enemy to fuel my words, my tone, and (if appropriate) my volume? I don’t think it’s likely we can reach a solid solution tonight. Could we agree to delay making a decision and reconcile our differences tomorrow morning after a good night’s sleep?”

Linda:  How does that work? What if the other spouse is unwilling?

Deb: They might be. But most often, we’ve discovered, couples just want it to be done. At least for the moment. We’re exhausted and so often we have not previously had a method to peacefully disengage without someone just throwing in the towel. And when there’s no resolution, we’re destined to experience that same conflict in the future.

Realistically, conflict could happen any time of day. The time doesn’t matter. As long as you agree on a time to come back together to reach agreement, you are on the right path.

Linda: What inspired you and your husband to arrive at this process?

Deb:  There are two principles or truths at work here; we submit to both. The first is: if you have to fight, fight fair. And the second is even more essential: be clear about who the enemy is—and isn’t.

There is an enemy who sets himself against us because we follow Jesus. His identity is made clear in Ephesians 6:12: “For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places,” (NLT).

People —in this case, our mate—are not the enemy. We don’t need to target them or engage in the wrong combat.

Linda: What do you mean by the “wrong combat?”

Deb: There’s two components in play.

We just discussed the first component: remembering who the real enemy is. When we fight against one another in anger, we both lose, and our marriage suffers. But fighting—together—for our marriage is essential.

The second component is more complex. We treat conflict as a problem. Many avoid conflict at all costs. As a result, conflict exists; it’s not expressed, but it remains and it’s unresolved.

Conflict is not the real problem. It’s how we deal with it that determines where it takes us. Conflict begins with a difference of opinion, experience, belief, or perception.

When conflict is handled poorly, carelessly, or callously, it can lead to damage, and ultimately, destruction of the relationship.

It can also lead to discovery—greater insight and understanding of our partner’s thoughts, feelings, and perspective. As in “Wow! I never saw it that way. That’s great.” Or “Now I understand how what I said hurt you. Thanks for helping me see that.”

It’s up to us to choose which direction we will go – discovery or destruction.

Linda: Good insights! What tools can you share with us that might be helpful to choose discovery over destruction?

Deb: Interestingly, poor communication was the highest rated cause of conflict in our survey. So, if the problem started because of poor communication, solving it verbally is not a reliable option. Tools are essential to tackling this issue. Skill power is far greater than willpower when it comes to choosing a healthy approach to conflict.

Building strong communication skills prevent a disagreement from becoming a war, and if a battle breaks out, we’re equipped to declare a truce. We must learn to deal with what we’ve created.

We will use the four letters of D-E-A-L as a way to remember a proactive approach to free yourself (and your loved one) from escalating into anger.

DDon’t take the bait.

EExplain the impact of the behavior and express your expectations.

AAsk questions to draw your spouse into dialogue.

LLet go of the need to manage your mate’s behavior. Self-manage your own.

Linda: Could you explain these points a little further?

Deb: Okay, let’s talk about how to deal with conflict before it gets away from us and develops into a destructive discussion. 

  • Don’t Take the Bait

When the bait is dangled on that hook, their goal is to get you to bite, to react in the moment in order to serve the purposes of the one serving the bait, regardless of the impact on you.

But whether it’s silence or volume, sarcasm or vindictiveness your mate expresses, your objective is to respond, not react. What’s the difference? A response is a thoughtful, purposeful reply, considered and chosen according to your relationship with your spouse and God.

A reaction is an in-the-moment reply often based on emotion like anger, hurt, or pride. Think of it as the quick-draw retort that you (and the Lord) will regret the moment it leaves your lips.

  • Explain the impact of the behavior and express your expectations.

Help your spouse recognize and understand the impact on you as a result of the issue. Express your expectations as the conversation continues. For example, if your spouse yells to make the point in an attempt to overpower you and push your concern aside, it’s important to respond appropriately. Here’s how that might sound:

“We agreed to curb spending, but your purchase disregarded our agreement. I feel disregarded, too. It’s a trust issue. We need to talk about this, but please let’s discuss it respectfully without raised voices or anger.”

Once the impact is explained, and expectations are established, you’re ready to move ahead and begin the discussion.

  • Ask questions to draw your spouse into dialogue.

Open-ended questions invite engagement. They often start with how or what. The purpose here  is to invite your spouse into solutions-building, with the goal of a joint decision. Continuing our example, it may sound like this:

“If the positions were reversed, how would you feel? What message would you take had I been the spender today?”

“How do we keep this from continuing? What steps can we take to insure there are no more surprises?”

You may discover information you were unaware of, changing the way you view the issue. Or not. Either way, you’re beginning the work of building a solution together.

Eventually, steps will surface, and you can begin to create a plan.

Be patient and remember, you manage you, let your spouse do the same. Which brings us to the final element of dealing with the conflict.

  • Let go of the need to control your mate’s behavior. Self-manage your own.

This conversation is not about me controlling you. I’m here to control me.

Even if you never verbalize this, don’t ever forget it. We have our hands full managing our own behavior. You can redirect the tone and direction of the conversation if you remember this principle.

You may be tempted to try to manage or control his/her behavior. Remember your first priority is to give your spouse insight into how their behavior impacts you. It’s best done with an attitude of, “I’m here to give you helpful information about me and how this affected me.” This approach gives your spouse the benefit of the doubt, which helps minimize the potential offense and moves the couple forward.

And forward is where we want to go!

Linda: Thanks Deb. Where can readers find out more about you and your books?

Deb: You can find out more about my books and my ministry at Deb DeArmond/Family Matters (www.debdearmond.com)

 

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