They Don’t Tell: Child Abuse: A Mother’s Perspective – Author Interview with Lisa Gray

A yellow bookcover with the picture of a mother and childWITH WHAT’S BEEN happening in our country this last week, our hearts and minds have been taken captive by thoughts about our children and the horror some of them had to endure at the hands of a heartless and cruel individual. But our hearts also go out to the parents and the pain they’ve experienced as they try to comprehend the incomprehensible awfulness of what happened.

There’s another horror story some children endure and other mothers who are gripped with pain in the discovery. In Lisa Gray’s book, They Don’t Tell: Child Abuse: A Mother’s Perspective, Lisa broaches a subject that is difficult to talk about, but she shares it from the vulnerability of a mother who has experienced the pain but discovered the healing.

Linda: Lisa, I know this is a dark subject, but I believe you’ve told me the book is not about darkness, but about hope. Please tell me what you mean by that.

Lisa: I believe we need to always be reminded that even in the darkest of situations, there’s always hope because we serve the God of Hope!

Linda: So now that we’ve given away the ending – that there is hope—tell me what They Don’t Tell: Child Abuse: A Mother’s Perspective is about.

Lisa: A mother’s heart, a heart that has been broken, shattered, stomped upon, torn apart and left in utter disarray.  The revelation of knowing your child has been violated by those who were “supposed” to care and nurture them is unlike any other pain I’ve ever experienced in my life!

Linda: So please tell us why you decided to write They Don’t Tell: Child Abuse: A Mother’s Perspective

Lisa: I felt the Lord wanted me to share my story, my journey back to health and wholeness for myself and my family. The book is meant for those who like me felt so alone, so isolated AND felt guilt and shame!  I was supposed to provide safety, protection, and security.  That was not my daughter’s experience.

I have to say I listen to Bishop T D Jakes a great deal, and I remember thinking to myself, “Why does he always talk about sexual abuse?”  I know it happens.  My head is not buried in the sand, but does it really happen THAT much?  I mean does it happen enough to warrant him continually talking about it ad nausea?  Well give me a chance now, and boy oh boy have I changed my story!  Today I say. “Bishop preach!”  Linda, today I understand that while I was thinking those very thoughts, I never knew that sexual abuse was happening in my own house, under my own roof, to My own daughter.

Linda: That’s heartbreaking, Lisa. Tell us how you were able to deal with it?

Lisa: Well let me assure you, it was not easy.  It was a process that took time, prayer, and—if I can be honest—I’ll admit there was some self-pity, Lisa Gray, authorsome self-loathing, and many questions of why and how could this happen.  I’m a good person, I love the Lord, this is not supposed to happen to Christians like us.

Linda, many times I had to fight the enemy in my mind…which is why the Lord tells us in scripture to take every thought captive…not to just sit in it, not to soak in the negativity but to fight.

There were days where I would fight with worship music, there were days when I would fight with scripture, there were days when I would fight with scriptures.  I would put scriptures all around me to remind me that God was faithful.  There were sticky notes on my refrigerator, my bathroom mirror, my car review mirror…because the assault against my mind was unrelenting, but only for a season.

I can say my family and my church family rallied around us also and supported us greatly through that season.

Because God is the same yesterday, today and forever we can stand on his word, and he will and does bring us through!

Linda: Lisa, that is such a powerful reminder of how to persevere through difficult times. Yes, God is faithful! What do you want readers to take away from your message in your book, They Don’t Tell?

Lisa: Linda if there’s anything I’d like for your listeners and my readers to know, I want to remind them that the enemy comes after our faith, and our resolve to judge the Lord faithful…even in the storms of life.  He really wanted me and others to walk away from the Lord and curse the Lord because of the trial and the storm.  I would never do that.  I understood that our LORD is faithful through every trial, every storm. And I understood my children, my family, my church family, even the community was looking to see how I was going to handle this.  Instead of running from God and to alcohol, drugs, gambling, shopping, food, whatever vice we use as false refuge, when the Bible clearly tells us the Lord is our strong tower, we run to him and are safe!

Run to him, Run to the throne of grace and plead for Mercy, judge the Lord faithful throughout all the circumstances. His mercies are new every morning, for you and your family!

Linda: After this terrible incident of child abuse happened to you and your daughter, where are you now in life? And how is your daughter?

Lisa Gray and DaughterLisa: This is myself and my daughter Nikki now—after the storm, after the hurt, after the trauma, after the healing, and after restoration has taken place in both of our lives.  We are better, stronger, more resilient, and determined that what we went through others can go through as well and survive!​  We walked this out together, and now are compelled to open up our lives and hold our heads high because like any of you who’ve experienced this—we have nothing to be ashamed of!

Linda: Has this experience of dealing with child abuse taught you anything new or transformed your thinking in any way?

Lisa: The Lord has taken me into a new area for me, one I never truly understood, but now I do.  Generational curses.  Although we don’t realize it, we actually have understood them along certain areas of our lives because every time we go into a medical facility they want a breakdown of our medical history.  Well, Linda, hidden in those familiar medical patterns are the generational iniquities that have been repeating throughout our generations.  Now I work with individuals and families to uncover, and uproot those patterns—of cancer, heart disease, brokenness, sexual immorality, etc.  My website is :  Bloodline Curse Breakers.com.  I can also be reached through email at kidsdonttell@gmail.com or by phone at 1 (202) 810-5687.

Linda: Do you have any final thoughts to share:

Lisa: Yes, this was a HORRIBLE situation, but when we give it to God, trust him, lean on and into him through the process, he will turn it around for our good.  His word cannot return to him void, and what the enemy meant for bad, God turns it around for our good.

Now I get the opportunity and the honor to share God’s word and his redemption all around the world.  My daughter is well and flourishing, and my ex-husband is serving a prison term of 15-40 years for the violation.

Linda: Where can people find your book, They Don’t Tell: Child Abuse: A Mother’s Perspective?

Lisa: The best place to find the book is on Amazon or they can reach out to me at the above email. You can also find out more about me and my book on my website at bloodline cursebreaker – Author counsellor speaker

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Wounded Women of the Bible, Finding Hope When It Hurts – Interview with co-author Tina Samples

Today I’m happy to be interviewing Tina Samples, co-author of Wounded Women of the Bible: Finding Hope When Life Hurts. In her book, Tina and co-author Dena Dyer share stories of hope from both the Bible and real life, which I think will encourage many of you. Tina is a Colorado-based writer, speaker, and worship leader, who serves alongside her husband Dave, the pastor of Grace River Church in Windsor, Colorado.

 Linda: Tina, tell me what prompted the writing of this book?

Tina: As a pastor’s wife, I minister to many hurting and wounded women. I started meeting with four women who were having extreme difficulties in their marriage. After our first meeting, I left wishing there was some kind of study I could use to help these women through their crises and suffering. A few days later I awoke with my name being called. “Tina!” The clock read 3:00am. Thinking perhaps my son was calling for me, I listened.  But I did not hear my son. Instead, I heard, “Tina, women in the Bible who have been wounded.” I asked the Lord if I should write about that and in my spirit heard him say yes. I then began the process of researching women in the Bible who were wounded. I had no idea the project would turn into anything more. Later on, I realized this project was bigger than me and asked my wonderful friend Dena Dyer, if she would like to help write the book. I’m so glad she agreed.

Linda:  The premise of Wounded Women of the Bible is that women today are not alone: women all around them, and women in the past (in the Bible), have experienced the same difficulties. What are some of the stories from Wounded Women of the Bible?

Tina: As we look through the Bible, particularly the Old Testament, we find many women who experienced deep pain in a variety of ways. In Wounded Women of the Bible, we look at these women’s lives. We touch on the two women in Solomon’s court and the battle of betraying a friend. We take a look at Abigail who seemed to have it all, yet behind closed doors lived with a mean and surly man. The readers will hear the desperation from the widow of Zarephath who struggled to make it through a famine. They will read about Jephthah and the wounding a father can place on their daughters. This book touches on wounded relationships and women who suffered through infertility. We read Jochebed’s story of having to release a child. And then there is Dinah who was sexually violated. Women will be able to relate to so many women in this book because we’ve been through it ourselves.

Dena did a wonderful job interviewing women in today’s world who experienced similar wounds as the biblical women. Modern day women share their own stories of healing. Women will come away with a greater understanding that they are not alone in their quest to find freedom.

Linda:  Along those lines, what are some of the stories from your own past that are used in the book?

Tina:  I grew up in poverty. My father stumbled into a life of crime early on in his life. He was a non-believer and my mother was a believer. Through my mother’s influence, we came to know Christ. I share about my own sexual abuse as a child and how God helped me find forgiveness and freedom. I share about a great loss. My brother’s murder was horrific and difficult to overcome.

Dena also shares some of her own personal stories, struggles, wounds, and how God helped her walk through them. The book was difficult at times to write, yet cathartic and healing all at the same time.

Linda: What do readers need to keep in mind when reading Wounded Women of the Bible?

Tina: This book is meant to open eyes and bring insight to how biblical women faced similar wounds that we go through. Our prayer has been that through this book, women will come to face their own hidden wounds and find freedom once and for all. It’s easy for women to cover their pain and past wounds with a band aide, but God wants to take off these superficial fixes and bind the wound in His way. Psalm 147 says, “He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds.” The word binding means to wrap like a turban. Think of a cast. When someone has a broken leg, the doctor casts it so the break can heal. The Lord wants to do the same with our wounds. God wants to wrap them with His healing balm. The balm comes in the form of His words, scripture, Bible passages, walking with us while we work through our hurts, allowing God to love us through them, and receiving His help. We just need to allow God to rip away the band aide we’ve placed on the wound so He can truly heal what’s beneath.

Linda: Pain can be felt in so many ways: the death of a loved one, divorce, infertility, etc. How can one person’s pain help another person if they did not experience the same thing?

Tina: We may not be able to relate to every person’s story but there is one thing we can relate to: the wound. I’ve never met a woman who hasn’t been wounded in some way or another. We can empathize with others by reminding ourselves of the pain we once experienced and how God brought us through that situation. Pain is pain. We can choose to walk through life with other hurting women. So often we have a difficult time doing that due to our own wounds. But when we find freedom – we have the power to minister in ways we never dreamed possible.

Linda:  On your webpage, you have something called the “Wounded Women Pledge.” I have a feeling there might be a story behind this.  Can you tell us the reason for this?”

Tina:  At our previous church, I was wounded by someone close to me. As the pastor’s wife, I found that many women had a difficult time reaching out to me. Many of my friends turned away. I felt abandoned and alone. For some reason women often have a difficult time walking with other hurting women. We judge and turn away too easily. Perhaps the wound gets a little too close to the woman who never fully dealt with her own wound. I’ve heard sad stories from women losing longtime friends because they divorced due to abusive relationships or from infidelity. Those women could not walk with them through their grief or through God restoring them due to sin.  It truly is time to stand up and walk with one another as Christ would have done for us had He been here in the flesh – and continues to do in the Spirit. I encourage readers to take the pledge and decide to walk with wounded and hurting women.”

Linda: What are one or two major points that you would like your readers to take away?

Tina: God is never far away and though it may feel like it, He never gives up on us. His passion is to bring hope and healing into our lives so that we can live life abundantly. There is hope. We never walk alone. Freedom awaits. We just meed to step into it.

I also want readers to find out about other ways to minister to hurting women by taking the Wounded Women Pledge to walk with wounded and hurting women. Also, they can connect with Blogs for the Healing on my webpage @ www.tinasamples.com.

Linda:  Where can readers find out more about your book?

Tina: You can find Wounded Women of the Bible on Amazon,  on my website at https://www.tinasamples.com/ or any other bookstore.

 

 

 

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Interview with Penny Monetti, Co-author of Honored to Serve, Guidance and Encouragement for Military Families in Transition

Honored to Serve_catalogWith our recent celebration of the 4th of July, fond thoughts still linger on the brave men and women who have fought to make America free. Many of these military families have unique challenges on the home front as well as the battlefield. Through their two books, Called to Serve and Honored to Serve, Penny Monetti and her husband Lt. Col. Tony Monetti encourage both military and civilian families by providing combat care, recovery, and stress management for trauma and crisis victims. Penny is a Marriage Life Coach, is certified in the neuroscience of anxiety and mood disorders, and serves on Missouri Congresswoman’s Military Advisory Board.

Linda: What motivated you to write books that inspire both military members and civilians to overcome life’s tough challenges?

Penny: Living the military life as an Air Force B-2 bomber pilot’s wife and serving from the home front has truly been an honor. Along with changing addresses as often as a smoke detector changes batteries and forging lifelong friendships with people world wide, I also experienced other unique military-related challenges. Numerous times my husband informed me that he was leaving due to military missions. He could not tell me where or for how long. With young children in tow, I waved my husband off to combat or dangerous exercises, not knowing if and when he would return.

As boxes were packed for the thirteenth move, I reassured my children that they would make new friends again. I witnessed and experienced the collateral damage that combat places on families after war comes home.

Then, as our once seemingly perfect marriage went south, and I became transparent about my marital fires, I discovered the vast expanse of others whose outwardly strong relationships were inwardly dying. These diverse life experiences sparked a burning desire to help fellow military members overcome personal battles and reignite the love in their relationships. However, I surprisingly discovered readers, unaffiliated with military life, also related with our stories, such as couples, single parents, truck drivers, and others whose jobs required travel away from home.

After sharing painful issues such as pornography, temptations, destructive behaviors, and neglecting each others’ unmet needs, my husband Tony and I realized we could inspire others who felt lost, desperate, and as hopeless as we once did.

Many people currently live a life void of joy; they are unaware that the powerful life-changing tools reside within themselves. I believe that God used my painful experiences for His purpose to help others’ marriages not only survive pain but thrive because of pain.

Staying in a Painful Relationship

Linda: If pain prevailed in your relationship, could you tell us why you decided to fight to save it? Was there a defining moment you decided to stick it out?

Penny: At one point Tony and I were living at opposite ends of the house to avoid fighting. Our feelings of love seemingly disappeared. During this time, I read an inspirational book that a friend coincidentally gave me. When the book’s main character recounted her married history, my icy heart melted. I reflected on my own marriage. Tony and I had shared births and the death of our unborn child together. We experienced first steps, 2:00 a.m. fevers, Little League, and piano recitals. We survived wars, served community and country, wiped tears, and built a strong family. At one time, we were each others’ best friends. We couldn’t lose that.

I set the tear-stained book on my nightstand and grabbed my laptop computer. Tony was in London serving as the keynote speaker at a Penny Monetti & Husband B-2week-long aviation symposium. My mom was visiting me. With childcare taken care of, I decided to prove my commitment to Tony through extreme action. I clicked on a travel site and booked a flight the following day (worth a college semester’s tuition) to Great Britain. For the first time, I understood the “for worse” part of the marriage vows. I promised God to love my husband even when the worldly kingdom’s easy answer would be to bail out. As I clicked on the airline’s submit button to purchase the ticket, I truly submitted my marriage to God.

Just because I decided to be obedient to my vows, feelings of love did not magically reappear. Tough times awaited me; however, I hoped that with God’s powerful guidance, we could find our way back to each other and the love we once shared. The rest of this defining experience is included in Called to Serve and for me; it is our most powerful story. Although I couldn’t see it then, I can now look back and see that when I was at the darkest, weakest point in my life, God revealed His strength, turning my pain into His wonderful purpose.

Dealing with Pain

Linda: So are you saying pain can be good?

Penny: Face it. No one raises their hands in the Suffering 101 class shouting, “Pick me. Pick me!”

However, life’s inevitable trials serve a purpose if we choose to view them as a catalyst for growth. Pain serves as a messenger to thwart destructive threats. Our body’s pain receptors message the brain to reflexively remove ourself from danger to avoid further injury.

However, too often, we view pain as the enemy. We will do anything and everything to avoid pain. We down pills and alcohol to numb it. We secretly search for better relationships in person or via social media to escape it. We disassociate from people and experiences that trigger memories of it. We overwork, over commit, and over indulge to deflect it.

Instead of avoiding pain, if we allow ourselves to experience its message, we open doors to the life changing lessons it holds. God does not instruct us to avoid pain; instead he states the opposite. He says that we WILL suffer, yet, He will be at our side. Isaiah 43: 1-3 says, “Fear not… you are mine. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you (ESV, emphasis mine).

Growth, healing, and a rich marriage relationship occurred because of the painful fires we traveled. When we could not depend on each Called to Serve book coverother, we focused on God, who became a mirror that enabled us to view ourselves as we really are—broken, unworthy sinners in need of a Savior. When we both submitted to God’s control, He began molding our marriage into the union He intended it to be. Proverbs 25:4 says, “Purge the dross from the silver, and material for a vessel comes forth for the silversmith (ISV). Dross is an impure by-product that is purged from silver when placed in a scorching hot furnace, over 600 degrees hot. The dross, also referred to as scum, rises to the top and the refiner removes it so the malleable silver can be molded into a beautiful vessel. Relational scum blocked us from experiencing a deeper, richer, beautiful union. God knew the degrees of refining heat required to render our relationship pure.

Verbal and Physical Abuse in Marriage

Linda: As a professional marriage life coach who specializes in stress management for trauma and crisis victims, what advice do you have if verbal or physical abuse is present?

Penny: I see clients weekly who live in physically or verbally abusive relationships. Many are concerned about remaining obedient to their marital vows and God’s precepts. My advice is this: Never remain in a threatening environment. Protect children and self first.

After the crisis passes, convey to your spouse that protecting the family is necessary, and leaving a dangerous situation is not equivalent to giving up on the relationship. Communicate that you want your spouse in your life, but needs to get healthy for your family come first. Set boundaries and seek to restore the relationship within strict parameters of professional guidance. If both parties are willing, hope exists.

Linda: What advice can you offer to someone who is walking through the fires of a separation?

Penny: While experiencing any stressful life situation, I advocate that individuals practice PMS: the kind you WANT to have. PMS is physical, mental and spiritual balance. Visualize this acronym as a three-legged stool. If one leg is missing, the stool tumbles. To make good mental decisions and be the best partner and parent, incorporate PMS into daily living.

Physical, Mental and Spiritual Balance in Stressful Times

Linda: Could you explain PMS a little more?

Penny: Certainly. Here’s a brief overview.

Physical– Twenty minutes of cardio exercise/day release endorphins and dopamine. These neurotransmitters play a key role in reducing anxiety and depression. According to Mayo clinic, endorphins’ effect on physical pain may be as effective as a dose of morphine. Endorphins are also known to have an anti-aging affect on the body.

Mental– Keep it positive. Surround yourself with supportive friends who encourage. Reduce negative influences that are energy vampires. You know who they are; their high maintenance friendships suck the life from you. Don’t de-friend them on Facebook; however, set boundaries. Focus your energies on encouraging friends.

Add positive self-talk into your inner dialogue, and say positive affirmations OUT LOUD, while including your name, at least three times daily. For instance, “(State your name) is compassionate and a loyal friend.” By listening to positive self-talk, your auditory neural pathways connect with cognitive thoughts and rewire the brain from obsessive self-defeating thoughts to hopeful thinking. After twenty-one days, this action will become a habit.

Spiritual – Studies indicate that prayer and meditation also redirect the brain’s neural pathways responsible for rumination and decreases depression and anxiety. Research shows that less than 1% of married couples who pray together divorce. Pretty amazing when the reported divorce rate is 52%.

Linda: What would you like the readers to take away from this interview?

Penny: If you don’t remember anything else, remember: love is a choice not a feeling. You chose to say I do, and when you vowed love to your spouse, you not only committed your marriage to each other, but also to God. Feelings of love during your marriage may fade, but His love remains steadfast. He promises that when we are weak, He is strong. When two individuals commit to abide in His love, all things are possible.

Linda: Where can readers find more information about you and your ministry?

Penny: The book is presently on sale and can be found at: https://dhp.org/dhp-pages/font-color-red-i-called-to-serve-i-and-i-honored-to-serve-i-font.html Readers can find more about our military ministry on Pennymonetti.com.

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